tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post8804406164975060957..comments2024-03-05T21:05:36.848-05:00Comments on CommentaramaFilms: The Great (film) Debates vol. 75AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger77125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-51882969342371905622013-03-21T21:05:53.001-04:002013-03-21T21:05:53.001-04:00Good call Voz.Good call Voz.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-30540973464329242052013-03-20T19:23:17.079-04:002013-03-20T19:23:17.079-04:00The Pink Panther theme!!The Pink Panther theme!!Voznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-92029766758686929772013-03-18T01:32:31.180-04:002013-03-18T01:32:31.180-04:00Rustbelt, Yikes! That led me to this... Star Cras...Rustbelt, Yikes! That led me to this... <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzfuNSpP0RA" rel="nofollow">Star Crash</a>.<br /><br />It looks like a cross between Buck Rogers, Clash of the Titans, Barbarella, and a whole lot of really, really bad things. It's worth checking out. Christopher Plummer makes an appearance. LOL!AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-18765475758576830052013-03-18T01:26:03.942-04:002013-03-18T01:26:03.942-04:00Rustbelt, Thanks for the link: LINK. I'll ge...Rustbelt, Thanks for the link: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo5LZmx9Vrg" rel="nofollow">LINK</a>. I'll get it out. :)AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-74398201172858173322013-03-17T22:55:19.232-04:002013-03-17T22:55:19.232-04:00Anon: "Condorman" was made during the &q...Anon: "Condorman" was made during the "Morman mafia" period at Disney. Unfortunately, they also ran the company into the ground and Micheal Eisner was asked to come over from one of the other major studios to take over and fix it - whereupon he turned the studio into a left wing multinational media corporation while running what was left of Disney - the animation department and the Parks - into the ground. Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16289856510554336990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-24937707749370135532013-03-17T22:30:53.032-04:002013-03-17T22:30:53.032-04:00Ah, heck.
I found a trailer for 'Condorman...Ah, heck.<br /><br />I found a trailer for 'Condorman' on Youtube. (Not sure of it's official or fan-made.)<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo5LZmx9Vrg<br /><br />-RustbeltAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-7780808189030575972013-03-17T22:23:08.090-04:002013-03-17T22:23:08.090-04:00Andrew,
'Condorman' can be hard to find. ...Andrew,<br /><br />'Condorman' can be hard to find. Disney hasn't shown it since the 80's, probably because it has scenes of gunplay, death threats, violent car stunts/crashes, a body count, a disrupted wedding, gun fu, knife fu, laser fu...(I must've watched waaaay too much 'Monstervision with Joe Bob Briggs on TNT' back in the 90's). Plus, the film holds nothing back about the KGB being the bad guys.<br /><br />I know it had an early VHS release, but that's about it. (The movie came out in 1981.) It occasionally shows up on Youtube.<br /><br />It stars Michael Crawford- the Phantom himself- as a comic book artist who agrees to do a routine dropoff for a CIA friend in Istanbul. He has a little too much fun playing spy, convincing his Russian contact (Barbara Carrera... hubba, hubba...)that he's the real deal. Later, she asks the CIA to have him help her defect. Having little wiggle room, they do so- even supplying him with his personally-designed comic book equipment! The film then follows their exploits and our hero (and, by extension, us)live out his fantasy of being a real-life superhero, all the while trying to get out of Europe while evading the forces of her former KGB boss (Oliver Reed).<br /><br />Yeah, there was a time when Disney made films like these. Fewer PC concerns. More fun. (With a dash of Reagan-esque acknowledgment that the USSR was, indeed, the evil empire.)<br /><br />-RustbeltAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-59491419629477551902013-03-17T22:08:21.540-04:002013-03-17T22:08:21.540-04:00Jed, I haven't seen 'Black Sunday' yet...Jed, I haven't seen 'Black Sunday' yet. I'll put that on the 'to do' list.<br /><br />You're right about 'Manhunter's' style. It's about as 80's as a film can get. But unlike the other 'Lector' movies, it's shot more like an investigative thriller than a horror movie. (Which, I think, is to its advantage.)<br /><br />And the guy who played Dolarhyde, Tom Noonan, was terrific. Instead of being a generic, in-your-face 'I'm so conflicted' type of bad guy, he comes as pathetic/pitiable while being equally (if not more so) intimidating, dangerous, and unforgivable.<br /><br />And Peterson is perfectly cast as Will Graham. (Ed who?)<br /><br />-Rustbelt Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-1704718615506650432013-03-17T22:07:34.791-04:002013-03-17T22:07:34.791-04:00It was intentional Scott. I didn't want you h...It was intentional Scott. I didn't want you hogging the discussion. ;)<br />AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-55763610118466634962013-03-17T22:02:37.042-04:002013-03-17T22:02:37.042-04:00Andrew -
You had to ask the film music question ...Andrew - <br /><br />You had to ask the film music question on the weekend I was unavailable?! :-)<br /><br />It seems all the major stuff has been covered and I don't have much more to add.<br /><br />For you, here's a list of <a href="http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7849/.f" rel="nofollow">cue samples</a> from Intrada's recent <i>Condorman</i> soundtrack release. I had never heard of the movie either but you can't go wrong with Henry Mancini!<br /><br />For Jed, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4JYkj0CIDw" rel="nofollow">here's the music</a> that accompanies the truck chase in <i>Raiders</i>.<br /><br />I also have to differ with Dave (slightly) - I don't think John Barry is underrated BUT he does seem to get lost in the shuffle and I think it's because, in addition to the Bond films and <i>The Black Hole</i>, he also scored a ton of movies without geek appeal, i.e.: movies that don't get dissected to death!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-72864044930790770902013-03-17T21:47:41.155-04:002013-03-17T21:47:41.155-04:00As Dave mentioned, there were a lot of mediocre mo...As Dave mentioned, there were a lot of mediocre movies, even if the scores were great. I don't know, but maybe that has something to do with it. It no doubt helps to have a great score and a blockbuster film. Of course, isn't that always the way with art? :)<br />Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-33206274819235679232013-03-17T21:44:14.016-04:002013-03-17T21:44:14.016-04:00Tryanmax - you are absolutely on the money regardi...Tryanmax - you are absolutely on the money regarding the animated musical resurrecting Disney's fortunes. The Little Mermaid, Lion King etal almost always had a song up for an oscar, and those were movies you could watch and enjoy with kids and grandkids.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-51762323983978362132013-03-17T21:43:52.313-04:002013-03-17T21:43:52.313-04:00Rustbelt, I don't think I know Condorman. It ...Rustbelt, I don't think I know <i>Condorman</i>. It doesn't ring any bells at least.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-47910437546067940842013-03-17T21:43:02.321-04:002013-03-17T21:43:02.321-04:00tryanmax, Beauty and the Beast is an excellent mus...tryanmax, <i>Beauty and the Beast</i> is an excellent musical. My favorite Disney for music though is <i>Jungle Book</i>.<br /><br />I look forward to this week's Toonarama!AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-48125058437699611182013-03-17T21:42:14.877-04:002013-03-17T21:42:14.877-04:00Rustbelt - 'Manhunter" was the second of ...Rustbelt - 'Manhunter" was the second of Thomas Harris' books to be made into a movie (Black Sunday being the first.) It was definitely filmed in the Michael Mann of the 80's style (e.g. Miami Vice/Hans Zimmer style.) And it worked really well, I think. William Peterson long before he hit the CSI lotto. And the guy that played Dolarhyde surfaced as an alcoholic preacher in the series Hell On Wheels. I liked it a lot, having read the book Red Dragon and seen the movie long before "Lambs" hit the scene.<br />Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-63453829686728717222013-03-17T21:42:03.800-04:002013-03-17T21:42:03.800-04:00Dave and Jed, I think Dave means that Barry's ...Dave and Jed, I think Dave means that Barry's name never comes up when people list the top 2-3 composers, even though it should.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-78058094341048192012013-03-17T21:41:23.694-04:002013-03-17T21:41:23.694-04:00Outlaw, That's one of those epic moments on fi...Outlaw, That's one of those epic moments on film that everyone knows even if they never saw the movie. Truly iconic.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-76635063689536967442013-03-17T21:40:54.544-04:002013-03-17T21:40:54.544-04:00Jason, That's a great soundtrack. I'd lov...Jason, That's a great soundtrack. I'd love to see the movie remade, but them keep the soundtrack for the most part -- especially the intro theme.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-12779478594598507692013-03-17T21:14:25.079-04:002013-03-17T21:14:25.079-04:00Pikebishop beat me to 'Manhunter,' though ...Pikebishop beat me to 'Manhunter,' though I'm much more of a fan of the film's original score and other songs. ("In-a-godda-da-vida" is too long and repetitive for me.) IMH, er, uh, blasphemy, I'd call it the best of the Hannibal Lector films.<br /><br />I'd also throw in the lesser-seen Disney Cold War spy flick, 'Condorman.' Instead of something dreary or all-important, it's more adventurous as a comic book writer accidentally confuses the KGB into thinking he's an agent and the CIA is forced to recuit him for a mission. The music adds to excitement and, I think, helps the audience feel that they're riding shotgun through the action scenes.<br /><br />And to go along with T-rav, I have to cite an animated film as well. I have to go with 'Pinocchio.' Having listened to the soundtrack itself, it's amazing how much the music alone can convey. It's easy to picture the scenes just by the music. And, of course, this is the film that gave us Cliff Edwards singing "When You Wish Upon A Star."<br />(FYI: This film won both Best Original Score and Best Song at the Oscars in 1940. This wouldn't happen for Disney again until 'Mary Poppins' in 1964 and 'The Little Mermaid' in 1989.)<br /><br />-Rustbelt Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-63796804856675409752013-03-17T20:48:35.107-04:002013-03-17T20:48:35.107-04:00I am, of course, biased toward cartoons. As far as...I am, of course, biased toward cartoons. As far as that goes, the Disney Renaissance was almost entirely comprised of animated musicals and produced some of the most recognizable songs of the period. While my personal favorite happens to be <i>The Lion King</i>, I think objectively <i>Beauty and the Beast</i> is a better musical in terms of the musical numbers. I also have to nod to <i>Oliver and Co.</i> which, while generally considered pre-Renaissance, served as the proof-of-concept picture that made the Renaissance possible, and it also includes some big names including Huey Lewis, Billy Joel, and Bette Midler. <br /><br />Also, speaking of cartoons, if you have an extra 75 minutes in the next couple of days, you should watch <i>The Secret of Kells</i> before the next Toon-arama. There's no reason not to, it is currently free on Hulu and is streaming on Netflix and Amazon Prime. Happy St. Pat's Day! tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-73072486925585977982013-03-17T20:24:19.285-04:002013-03-17T20:24:19.285-04:00Outlaw - another classic to be sure. Just the whol...Outlaw - another classic to be sure. Just the whole Duval character is one of the best.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-26636468059532840592013-03-17T20:23:05.225-04:002013-03-17T20:23:05.225-04:00Dave - I find it hard to "underrate" a m...Dave - I find it hard to "underrate" a man with four or five academy awards. He is a major talent to be sure.Tennessee Jedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10604275115906776992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-33216761621622064062013-03-17T20:17:35.745-04:002013-03-17T20:17:35.745-04:00John Barry is an under-rated genius. When people t...John Barry is an under-rated genius. When people think of film composers they usually name the big ones like John Williams or Jerry Goldsmith. If they're film buffs (and credit-watching buffs) they may know names like Alan Silvestri, Michael Kamen, or --shudder-- Danny Elfman. John Barry gets lost in the shuffle, which is odd since he did all the James Bond movies through the 80s. Even when the movies were mediocre (Black Hole, The Deep) or crap (Raise the Titanic), the music was always very good. Dave Olsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-87639904879103170322013-03-17T19:50:18.481-04:002013-03-17T19:50:18.481-04:00Ride of the Valkyries scene from "Apocalypse ...Ride of the Valkyries scene from "Apocalypse Now"Outlaw13https://www.blogger.com/profile/17232117096525959967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-45182028920904315842013-03-17T18:54:37.431-04:002013-03-17T18:54:37.431-04:00AndrewPrice, I love the theme from The Black Hole....AndrewPrice, I love the theme from The Black Hole. Awesome stuff!Jasonhttp://www.rigelchase.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.com