tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post6462154687460127845..comments2024-03-05T21:05:36.848-05:00Comments on CommentaramaFilms: The Great (film) Debates vol. 46AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger151125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-88093839020786202472012-07-23T21:36:43.742-04:002012-07-23T21:36:43.742-04:00Scott, True. I think the underdog story is one of...Scott, True. I think the underdog story is one of the most inspiring and most used storylines in film.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-53013500072833812782012-07-23T21:34:19.272-04:002012-07-23T21:34:19.272-04:00I agree that they use sport to tell bigger stories...I agree that they use sport to tell bigger stories then just about sport. Everyone loves an underdog and most sports movies are about the underdog overcoming odds to either win or at the very least overcome great odds.<br /><br />Dam forgot Friday Night Lights (great movie and TV show). <br /><br />Scott.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-22909122312454541892012-07-23T21:23:57.609-04:002012-07-23T21:23:57.609-04:00Scott, I agree that we do sports movies well, even...Scott, I agree that we do sports movies well, even on sports that aren't so great. I have no interest in boxing, for example, but I've enjoyed several boxing films. I think the thing is that these films are about bigger ideas than just the sport itself -- the sport is just a pretext. They are about all kind of values we hold dear, and those values play out really well in sports films because they can be shown at their most extreme and most clear.<br /><br />Also, most sports films are feel good stories and like you, I am a sucker for a good feel good story.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-17142147173835091882012-07-23T21:18:53.665-04:002012-07-23T21:18:53.665-04:00I find it weird, I don't like most American sp...I find it weird, I don't like most American sports, but Americans do sports movies really well. While I won't watch some sports, I'll watch a good movie about them. I love feel good movies, it's one of my weaknesses. <br /><br />My list (though I most likely forgot some)<br /><br />Serious sports movies<br /><br />Remember the titans<br />Victory<br />Eight men out<br />Bull Durham<br />Miracle<br />Warrior<br />67<br />The rookie<br />The Natural<br />Chariots of fire (anyone?)<br />Invincible<br /><br />Comedy sports movies.<br /><br />Caddyshack<br />Happy Gilmore<br />Major League<br />Dodgeball<br />BasketBall<br />The longest Yard (the UK remake Mean Machine)<br />Waterboy<br /><br />Australia doesn't do sports movies that well, but two good ones are <br /><br />The Club (about Aussie Rules Football made in 1980 by Bruce Beresford who made Breaker Morrant)<br />http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080546/<br /><br />Crackerjack (about Lawnbowls of all things but it is very funny and heartfelt)<br />http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0291832/<br /><br />Scott.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-74529926373918736732012-07-23T19:59:14.779-04:002012-07-23T19:59:14.779-04:00rlaWTX, Wait a minute, so you're saying you do...rlaWTX, Wait a minute, so you're saying you don't believe that everything you saw in "The Perfect Storm" was 100% accurate? I'm sure they reported all of that in before they all died. ;)<br /><br />I had no idea they named their stances, but I guess it makes sense.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-56804659897812722692012-07-23T18:49:16.073-04:002012-07-23T18:49:16.073-04:00the absolute worst Hollywood "based on a true...the absolute worst Hollywood "based on a true story" moment ever: that point in "The Perfect Storm" when I realized no one was making it home alive - SERIOUSLY???<br /><br />Princes Bride: apparently, that move that the 6-fingered man makes in the hallway before he runs from Inigo (stance/hand position) is called... drum roll... the chicken. <br />(that's what I was told by a fencer/re-enactor)rlaWTXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319344164726195144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-80211467491778186852012-07-23T16:16:19.521-04:002012-07-23T16:16:19.521-04:00Soonertroll, I didn't worry about the villiani...Soonertroll, I didn't worry about the villianization of Baer because I never thought of the film as historical -- I no longer believe anything Hollywood says about "based on a true story." But it is a fair point.<br /><br /><i>Caddyshack</i> really was a film with a lot of people at the top of their game! They rarely make them like that anymore.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-9612176331651931362012-07-23T16:14:52.843-04:002012-07-23T16:14:52.843-04:00rlaWTX, That is easily the best fencing moment in ...rlaWTX, That is easily the best fencing moment in any film ever!! What an excellent scene. I still recall people comparing that to the ending in <i>Revenge of the Jedi</i> and being amazed at how poorly Lucas did compared to that simple scene in a comedy.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-5678893994673279592012-07-23T13:23:34.386-04:002012-07-23T13:23:34.386-04:00The villianization of Baer is a fair criticism of ...The villianization of Baer is a fair criticism of Cinderella Man. To quote Jethro Bodine "Opie did'nt need to make my father an ogre to make Jimmy Braddock a hero."<br /><br />I feel embarrassed for leaving Caddyshack off my list. Chevy Chase, Bill Murry, Rodney Dangerfield, and Ted Knight were at the top of their game. And BM's brother Brian Doyle.Soonertrollnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-87874454730309455262012-07-23T12:37:17.599-04:002012-07-23T12:37:17.599-04:00Cool Runnings!!!!!!
The best fencing movie has to...Cool Runnings!!!!!!<br /><br />The best fencing movie has to be "The Princess Bride"!<br /><br />We Are Marshall was very good - reminds you that MMcConaughey really can act. (Andrew, it's good regardless of WbGVa)<br /><br />And the only Lou Gehrig movie I've seen is the one with Jimmy Stewart - I had to look it up because I thought I was getting confused after y'all mentioned Gary Cooper!rlaWTXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319344164726195144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-43375202417163820202012-07-23T11:11:26.273-04:002012-07-23T11:11:26.273-04:00Michael, I have not seen The Greatest Game Ever Pl...Michael, I have not seen <i>The Greatest Game Ever Played</i> but I like the idea of films without villains. I think too often the villains are introduced simply to inject drama where the story itself isn't strong enough.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-31970012853678316482012-07-23T11:09:33.152-04:002012-07-23T11:09:33.152-04:00Firefly, I saw Chariots of Fire decades ago and ne...Firefly, I saw <i>Chariots of Fire</i> decades ago and never revisited it, and I can't recall if I enjoyed it.<br /><br />I always think of the "you want to kill the golfers" speech when I think of <i>Caddyshack</i>. LOL!AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-29431447202154503052012-07-23T10:44:48.270-04:002012-07-23T10:44:48.270-04:00I really enjoyed The Greatest Game Ever Played. As...I really enjoyed The Greatest Game Ever Played. As a disclaimer, I am big fan of period pieces especially Victorian/Edwardian. The great thing about the movie are the three British golfers especially Stephen Dillane as the great Harry Vardon. It was nice that Mr. Paxton did not see the need to make Vardon some bad guy, which he could of done easily by making him some stereotypical British snob. You see Vardon and Ouimet battle it out on the gold course playing a game that they love and the circle closing of the student overtaking the teacher. In contrast, other people have listed Cinderella Man. I did very much enjoy that movie but Mr. Ron Howard for me did an unpardonable sin of slandering Max Baer. He cited the typical cop out of creating tension. Paxton showed you can make a great sports movie without having to make the protagonist’s opponent someone the audience is manipulated to hate.Michael Knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-74023361108307775022012-07-22T23:33:52.549-04:002012-07-22T23:33:52.549-04:00Another thought - apropos given the upcoming Olymp...Another thought - apropos given the upcoming Olympics - Chariots of Fire. And the Cinderella story monologue from Caddyshack is making me smile as I think of it right now.Fireflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02360972505414686825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-63241901629984568862012-07-22T22:03:47.613-04:002012-07-22T22:03:47.613-04:00Eric, I would have sworn I had mentioned Kingpin a...Eric, I would have sworn I had mentioned <i>Kingpin</i> above, but apparently I didn't. :(AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-51481552127892067582012-07-22T21:59:34.559-04:002012-07-22T21:59:34.559-04:00Caddyshack the absolutely quintessential golf movi...Caddyshack the absolutely quintessential golf movie, but need to give some love to the Bill Paxton-directed The Greatest Game Ever Played. Shia LaBooBoo showed some nice chops (and swing) and Elias Koteas great as usual.<br /><br />No love yet for Kingpin amongst so many faves above, so this Hunky's gotta give a nod that direction.EricPhttp://www.threedonia.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-18183472649854250292012-07-22T21:53:36.330-04:002012-07-22T21:53:36.330-04:00Everyone, BH has posted a promo for one of my book...Everyone, BH has posted a promo for one of my books. If you get the chance, please let a comment! :)<br /><br /><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/07/15/wrongful-death-excerpt" rel="nofollow">LINK</a>AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-90899050791365116342012-07-22T20:55:08.452-04:002012-07-22T20:55:08.452-04:00That it would Ben! That it would.That it would Ben! That it would.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-91453984035638587962012-07-22T20:45:19.894-04:002012-07-22T20:45:19.894-04:00That would motivate me to dodge! Ha ha!That would motivate me to dodge! Ha ha!USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-25101545182674053842012-07-22T20:41:38.844-04:002012-07-22T20:41:38.844-04:00Ben, I love when he starts throwing the wrenched t...Ben, I love when he starts throwing the wrenched too. That's an hilarious scene!AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-17010297454780728852012-07-22T20:37:18.336-04:002012-07-22T20:37:18.336-04:00Andrew: LOL! Aye! He was a great coach!
Patches ...Andrew: LOL! Aye! He was a great coach! <br /><br />Patches O'Houlihan: You couldn't hit water if you fell out of a boat!USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-50254212575790036892012-07-22T20:29:06.141-04:002012-07-22T20:29:06.141-04:00We're all a bunch of outlaws. Breakin' the...We're all a bunch of outlaws. Breakin' the law! Breakin' the law! LOL!USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-67767275687275936292012-07-22T20:28:46.296-04:002012-07-22T20:28:46.296-04:00Ben, Dodgeball is a fantastic film! I love the li...Ben, <i>Dodgeball</i> is a fantastic film! I love the line: "It's like watching a bunch of retards trying to hump a doorknob!" He's one heck of a coach!AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-60599404880105553982012-07-22T20:25:49.248-04:002012-07-22T20:25:49.248-04:00Bev, That seems to be true. Our rules seems to be...Bev, That seems to be true. Our rules seems to be there just so people can break them. Who know a bunch of conservatives were such enthusiastic rule breakers?AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-52467494742750024522012-07-22T20:21:57.323-04:002012-07-22T20:21:57.323-04:00Ben, Yes, the Rockie is like a mix of Rocky and Th...Ben, Yes, <i>the Rockie</i> is like a mix of <i>Rocky</i> and <i>The Rookie</i>! LOL!<br /><br />I haven't seen <i>Invincible</i> or <i>Celtic Pride</i>.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.com