tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post6067740319893726864..comments2024-03-05T21:05:36.848-05:00Comments on CommentaramaFilms: Film Friday: Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (2001)AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-64040529009706520832013-06-25T01:12:37.743-04:002013-06-25T01:12:37.743-04:00Daniel, No problem. My e-mail address is:
andrew...Daniel, No problem. My e-mail address is:<br /><br />andrewpricebooks@hotmail.com<br /><br />AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-65015546269736551552013-06-25T01:02:37.794-04:002013-06-25T01:02:37.794-04:00Andrew,
I've gotten a sense of that from read...Andrew,<br /><br />I've gotten a sense of that from reading the blog, which gives me some hope at least. It was pretty disheartening to go on some sites and find both the conservative commenters and liberal trolls sounding equally insane and seeing the same old spin on both sides get rehashed. It'll be interesting to see what the future holds regardless.<br /><br />I'm glad to hear that where the concepts go! I'll need a bit of time to get the notes presentable, but I'll definitely send them over the first chance I get. I'd always meant to get involved here earlier because I was so impressed with the range of creative talent here, but I tend to be more of a quiet observer in these settings.<br /><br />I haven't met as many conservative artists myself, at least not online. I did meet a few at my previous church and some of my old high school friends are conservative artists as well. I feel a lot more at ease going over my ideas with them since I don't feel like I'm going to step on one of my liberal artist friends' toes in the process. I've noticed that about self-publishing as well, which is something I've considered if one of my ideas might not work better edited into a book format.<br /><br />How to get in, what kind of education and training I'd need, and how to even afford the latter are some of the biggest issues I'm facing here. I don't work for a gaming company, unfortunately, and don't know how I'd get in with one. One of my professors and I were going to look into it the last time I was in college but things didn't quite work out with that school (long story and I'd rather not air a lot of this in a public forum anyway).<br /><br />Still, a non-traditional route could work... A former co-worker of mine told me that the recent Tomb Raider reboot came from a novel (though I haven't confirmed the veracity of that), which does prevent one option. Also, while I don't know how he pulled it off or if it could even be done today Hideo Kojima didn't have any gaming experience when he joined Konami and now his Metal Gear Solid series is so big Kiefer Sutherland will actually be voicing Big Boss in the upcoming Metal Gear Solid V!<br /><br />Anyway, at this point I'd rather continue this conversation over e-mail if that's all right with you. It's a GMail address, andrewpricebooks, right?<br /><br /> - DanielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-63360989542907095522013-06-25T00:23:27.137-04:002013-06-25T00:23:27.137-04:00Daniel, There are a lot of signs that things are c...Daniel, There are a lot of signs that things are changing, but the people driving the change are taking a beating from everyone else in trying to lead them there. Fortunately, they seem up to the task of taking the beating and pulling through. All in all, I think change is inevitable at this point because what so many of these places are doing is just not tenable -- insane anger burns itself out quickly.<br /><br />On your ideas... absolutely, I'm interested! And I'm more than happy to provide feedback. I'm sure our little community will as well. We definitely have some very thoughtful people here with a surprising degree of experience in various artistic endeavors.<br /><br />On your point about conservatism and artists, I've found a lot of conservative artists, but they tend never to let anyone know their ideology because they're convinced it will only hurt them. I know that's true in publishing (books), where I've met bunches by now -- many of whom are published but felt they needed to hide their views. I do think that's changing as self-publishing has wiped out the gate-keeping ability of agents... who are very, very liberal, but it is still a problem for many.<br /><br />In terms of "getting there" with your ideas, that's hard to say. In my experience, non-traditional routes work best. But I don't know what those are in the gaming industry.<br /><br />Do you work for a video game company at this point?AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-6289921247907348892013-06-24T23:48:02.975-04:002013-06-24T23:48:02.975-04:00Andrew,
The state of modern conservative sites is...Andrew,<br /><br />The state of modern conservative sites is depressing all right. I wandered through a good bit of them before landing here and it's been a serious breath of fresh air. Hopefully sites like this and your Agenda 2016 book can bring some sanity back to the field.<br /><br />Interesting that we both had the same series in mind there. As I said above I like the gameplay and historical settings in AC a lot, but the blatant liberal messaging spread throughout the games gets very old very fast. I'll probably end up playing the upcoming sequel, Black Flag, anyway but it's nice to know I'm not the only one who finds that annoying. The anti-religious themes in the games get irritating, too, and I've had a conversation with an offline friend about how we both dislike those aspects of the games as well.<br /><br />Thanks for the well-wishes on my game ideas! I saw the potential for storytelling in games through RPGs like the Shining Force and Phantasy Star games (I had a Genesis as a kid and didn't get to play the big SNES classics, FFVI and Chrono Trigger, until later). FFVII and Metal Gear Solid cemented the idea in my head, so I've been thinking up plots, potential game mechanics, and such since high school. How exactly I'm going to pull it off given my current situation, to say nothing of how good my plot and character ideas actually are, remains to be seen.<br /><br />On that note it's nice to see that the site has a good creative community as well. It's exceedingly rare to find people interested in writing and such that aren't ardent liberals, which always made me a bit nervous working around them. I always avoid the subject with them and they've never looked down on me personally for disagreeing with them, but it does make me feel like I'm walking on eggshells sometimes. I'll let you know how some of these ideas are coming along if you're interested; this seems like a place where I could get some quality feedback.<br /><br />Ben - A lot of my friends have played Dark Cloud and have spoken highly of it. I never played it myself, though in this case it was more because I already had a lot of games around to play rather than actively avoiding it. I might have to get a copy of it one day when my current backlog is finally manageable.<br /><br /> - DanielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-69556076655183947852013-06-24T15:28:46.756-04:002013-06-24T15:28:46.756-04:00Ben, Thanks! I haven't played Dark Cloud, but...Ben, Thanks! I haven't played Dark Cloud, but I haven't had much time lately.<br /><br />I'm not sure why they didn't have a better story behind this movie, unless they made a conscious decision to try to make it more appealing to general audiences.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-19771002794706403842013-06-24T15:27:24.571-04:002013-06-24T15:27:24.571-04:00Anthony, I've heard really good things about W...Anthony, I've heard really good things about <i>Wreck it Ralph</i>. I think my favorite videogame adaptation is actually <i>Resident Evil</i>.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-19513875104655657212013-06-24T15:26:10.345-04:002013-06-24T15:26:10.345-04:00Daniel, I know what you mean. So much of what I se...Daniel, I know what you mean. So much of what I see at conservative sites right is just angry emoting without any thought. I find that really depressing. I'm really thrilled with the audience we have here because everyone is so thoughtful. That makes for much better discussions and I find it really stimulating.<br /><br />That sounds like a great idea to Americanize something like FF. I wish you luck! :)<br /><br />On liberal games, Assassin's Creed was actually what came to mind right away.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-72839111703194129112013-06-22T23:05:21.037-04:002013-06-22T23:05:21.037-04:00Excellent review, Andrew!
Yeah, this film was a bu...Excellent review, Andrew!<br />Yeah, this film was a bummer. Compared to the games it didn't hold a candle. <br />Sometimes i wonder why they don't make films based on prior games that have great stories.<br /><br />I mean, since it's rare to find good writers these days...or maybe hollywood producers just don't know how to discriminate between awful storytelling and good or great storytelling.<br /><br />I'm a;so a fan of the FF series, my favs being 5-10, but the rest are still good.<br />Been playing Skyrim lately and that's a very addictive game, lol. <br />Before that I was replaying a PS2 gem, Dark Cloud 2 (also called Dark Chronicles). What a blast of fun! <br />A very quirky, very different kind of rpg but well worth playing, with likable characters and a good story. USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-49315088765983456552013-06-22T21:18:13.571-04:002013-06-22T21:18:13.571-04:00Anthony,
I've played all of the Persona games...Anthony,<br /><br />I've played all of the Persona games except for Innocent Sin, which is in the aforementioned backlog, and I thoroughly enjoyed them! I liked both the earlier ones and the sim-life aspects of 3 and 4 (with Yukari and Yukiko being my girls of choice for the protagonist). I even played Persona 4 Arena on PS3, which is pretty entertaining in the way it brings in RPG elements like status effects into a fighting game. I never got Persona 3 Portable, but when the Vita has more games to make a purchase worthwhile P4 Golden is on the list.<br /><br />I enjoyed FFIX well enough, though it doesn't jump out as a favorite of mine the way VI, VII, X, and Tactics do, and it's hard not to like little Vivi all right. He was a very endearing and sympathetic character.<br /><br />Some of my friends suggested going the indie route as well, which I'll have to look into. The big publishers no doubt have the resources for good games, but the odds of getting in there, along with the BS that goes with working with big corporations, does make me cautious. Of course I've still got a degree to finish that's dragging on and a (literally) crappy retail job to escape first, so who knows when I'll be able to put some real work into it.<br /><br /> - DanielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-26952226001111087952013-06-22T21:09:00.038-04:002013-06-22T21:09:00.038-04:00My favorite videogame film is undoubtedly Wreck It...My favorite videogame film is undoubtedly Wreck It Ralph (I love that film as much as my kids do).<br /><br />My favorite film based on a single videogame is Silent Hill. The ending kind of sucked, but prior to the end it really nailed the atmosphere of the games.<br /><br />Also, Advent Children is meandering, but it has some really great fight scenes (and ends with a Cloud vs Sephiroth fight, so the FF geek in me has made me watch it many times).Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-86613502157705371872013-06-22T21:03:34.356-04:002013-06-22T21:03:34.356-04:00Daniel,
Have you tried the Persona rpgs? The pro...Daniel,<br /><br />Have you tried the Persona rpgs? The protagonist (male or female in P3, male in P4) is a student new to the school who with the help of their friends has to solve a dark mystery. What's really unique about them is that your character has to balance dungeon exploring with normal life. <br /><br />Your character has friends and family who want to spend time with him, might play on a sports team, might hold a job, might have a girlfriend, might be a member of the art club, etc, etc. Also, your character has to study for school. <br /><br />The power of the monsters (personas) you use to fight is strengthened by your social relationships, so its not irresponsible to choose to hang out with a friend rather than go into a dungeon.<br /><br />The Persona games are only on the PS2 and PS portables, but they are some of the best jrpgs released this generation. They are massive games with a ton of content (you can play through several times and not see everything).<br /><br />Moving back to the FF games, my favorite character is probably FF9's Vivi. FF9 had a ton and a half of problems, but Vivi (a construct with a short lifespan who wondered about his purpose and was a more than a little reminiscent of androids in Blade Runner) was a wonderful character who made the game worth experiencing.<br /><br />Anyway, good luck getting into game design. Nowadays I get the sense that most young people are going the indie route and making their own games rather than joining a big publisher.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-935696578857400082013-06-22T20:16:16.504-04:002013-06-22T20:16:16.504-04:00It really has. Until I found CR I felt like all I...It really has. Until I found CR I felt like all I was getting from conservative sites was just angry emoting. I was lurking on Big Hollywood when I saw that you and Larry established Commentarama and I've been reading ever since. It's great to see real, calm intellectual analysis of events from such a thoughtful group of people. I'll definitely comment a bit more, too!<br /><br />I understand the slowness, too, no worries.<br /><br /> - Daniel<br /><br />Thanks, I hope it does too. I've always enjoyed coming up with weapons, spells, and such for games and I've been told my writing is good, so I've always hoped to get in on the story planning of an adventure game, preferably an RPG. I have no idea how I'd go about doing that, though, and I'm still not sure how any of these plots and characters will work out yet. I've been consulting some friends who are big gamers for ideas and such, though, and the article here about American Mythology got a few wheels turning in my brain, too. For better or worse the anime influence from FF and similar games is a part of my creativity, so I might just end up Americanizing it through my own work.<br /><br />Yeah, it's annoying when you do run across a blatantly liberal game. Gaming and reading have always been my primary forms of entertainment anyway but the in-your-face liberalism of a lot of movies, TV shows, stars, and such dampened my enthusiasm for them severely. By and large gaming still seems to be apolitical, but it's definitely grating when you find blatant leftism in it.<br /><br />Which liberal games did you have in mind, BTW? When I was typing my earlier comment Assassin's Creed was on my mind. I love the gameplay and historical settings of the games, and knowing me I'll probably end up playing IV at some point anyway, but things like the whole "Capitalism is a Templar conspiracy" thing from one of Brotherhood's side missions and Shaun's smug, snarky liberalism always make me grit my teeth. The same went for the Che veneration in Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker, though the MGS games are so high-quality it usually doesn't detract from my enjoyment of them as much as it could.<br /><br />KHII was definitely a blast, and Yuna is a good character, too. I like her sweet-natured character and quiet determination. Being able to unload 99,999 HP worth of whoop-ass with Anima and the Magus Sisters helped, too!<br /><br />Celes is great, all right. She came off as strong, elegant, and determined without being too abrasive and the way she eventually opened up to Locke and the others, and her eventual relationship with said thief - uh, treasure hunter, made for a good story. She was always in my party whenever she was available because she was so good in battle, too, and she's always at the head of my party whenever I fight Kefka in FFVI replays.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-37985544503441946882013-06-22T18:39:35.653-04:002013-06-22T18:39:35.653-04:00P.S. Celes is an excellent character as well!P.S. Celes is an excellent character as well!AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-87819214686681875662013-06-22T18:38:31.839-04:002013-06-22T18:38:31.839-04:00Daniel, I'm glad to hear the blog has given yo...Daniel, I'm glad to hear the blog has given you a different perspective. That's always been my goal: to approach things in a novel way and see what happens. I may not always be right, but I like to think that I'm thoughtful. :)<br /><br />Feel free to comment any time you wish!<br /><br />I hope your gaming idea works out. There are definitely some obnoxiously liberal games out there.<br /><br />I haven't had the chance to play KHII. I kept waiting for it and waiting for it and by the time it finally arrived, I found myself so busy on other things that I haven't had the chance to play it. In terms of my favorite character, Yuna is easily my favorite.<br /><br />P.S. Sorry about the slow responses, I've got company this weekend and have only been online a couple times.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-51661033480219913162013-06-22T18:27:35.767-04:002013-06-22T18:27:35.767-04:00Max, Could be? Hard to tell.
I have to admit tha...Max, Could be? Hard to tell.<br /><br />I have to admit that I enjoy <i>Wing Commander</i> a good deal. It has some serious flaws, but it's a pretty sold film.<br /><br />AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-17729492480822772052013-06-22T16:56:25.208-04:002013-06-22T16:56:25.208-04:00You're welcome! The take you have on films an...You're welcome! The take you have on films and politics is unlike anything I've seen on most conservative sites and I think you're doing a valuable service to both conservatism and politics here! I wouldn't have even thought about the causes of problems with things like health care if it hadn't been for the site and book.<br /><br />It was actually VII that got me into FF, not VI, but VI is definitely a masterpiece. You could tell Square got the most out of the old SNES hardware on that one with how vivid the setting was and how memorable the characters were. Celes is easily one of my all-time favorite fictional female characters, if not my overall favorite, and Kefka was an incredible villain as well. It's still amazing how you could be laughing at one of his comments one minute and then see him do something completely horrifying the next. It took a lot of writing skill to pull someone like that off that well. <br /><br />I was a bit slower to get into Kingdom Hearts than most... I went through a rebel "Disney is for babies" phase when I was a little kid that hadn't quite worn off by the time KH came out, but when I gave it a chance I thoroughly enjoyed the gameplay and the nostalgia from seeing the various Disney and FF characters. KHII got my attention pretty quickly when they revealed that Auron was going to be one of your party members (he, Celes, and Sephiroth are my top 3 FF favorites), but I didn't have the money to get it for a while. It was great when I did, though, and I'm definitely going to be getting KHIII when I can afford a PS4 and it gets released!<br /><br />Anyway, it was nice to finally find a subject to comment on here. When it comes to the blogs I consider myself more of a student quietly taking notes than contributing to the class, but I'll try to comment more often. If nothing else I'm definitely one to talk to on gaming matters, where hopefully I can finish my stories and maybe get them published. As nice as it is there are definitely some obnoxiously liberal games out there that I'd like to see some alternatives to.<br /><br /> - DanielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-44980933488773037782013-06-22T15:53:36.526-04:002013-06-22T15:53:36.526-04:00It is surprising, I'm assuming there is a bit ...It is surprising, I'm assuming there is a bit of executive involvement. It happens all the time in film, we have missed some really great stuff because of others input. <br /><br />I do think Wing Commander was a better film, but it's story did suffer as well. Besides the game having a much better cast than than the film. Remember the days when it was the other way around. Perhaps they were trying to appeal to some teenage non-game playing demographic. I do not understand marketing, "Let's make our movies for the people who have no money". Commander Maxhttp://www.the-grey-ghost.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-12933929066477723212013-06-22T11:06:48.668-04:002013-06-22T11:06:48.668-04:00Max, I'm actually a little surprised the writi...Max, I'm actually a little surprised the writing was so poor on this one because they generally do so much better with the games. They really do manage to have complex and interest plots with lots of twists and turns. I kind of wonder if they didn't dumb it down a lot to try to reach general (non-gaming) audiences?AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-51907456957771057212013-06-22T11:03:54.683-04:002013-06-22T11:03:54.683-04:00Thanks Daniel! I'm glad you've enjoyed th...Thanks Daniel! I'm glad you've enjoyed the blogs and the books! And thanks for commenting! :)<br /><br />I totally agree about online games. The times I've played, I've found some good people, but I've also found a ton of jerks who do their best to ruin the games for everyone. There's just no reason to put up with that. So I prefer the games that let you play single player.<br /><br />On FF, I got hooked on VI as well and have since gotten into the others. My favorite is the Kingdom Hearts spin off, but I also really love X.<br /><br />And yeah, that is a classic imagine. But the whole series is full of those -- truly beautiful scenes, the kinds of places you wish were real.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-82063439113876062762013-06-22T00:54:20.631-04:002013-06-22T00:54:20.631-04:00The bird at the end was the best scene in the film...The bird at the end was the best scene in the film. That really looked good for the day. <br /><br />But the rest of it, well. There was neat looking spaceship, but...how many bad films had really good production design? That's Hollywood, spare no expense to make it look really good. <br />Writers? Nobody reads anymore so why do we care;). Commander Maxhttp://www.the-grey-ghost.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-18557675775859171492013-06-21T23:54:48.884-04:002013-06-21T23:54:48.884-04:00Long time lurker, first time commenter here... De...Long time lurker, first time commenter here... Despite the fact that I'm a huge FF fan (I got hooked with VII) this movie never did seem all that appealing to me and I never saw it. Reviews like this weren't uncommon even back when it was released, so I stayed away and decided to just stick to the games.<br /><br />That's a classic image you used to contrast SW and the games, BTW, Andrew. It really does give you a good sense of Tidus' character and how fantastic the world of Spira is. It's hard to beat a lot of the areas of that game for splendor, especially the Moonflow, Macalania, and the Zanarkand Ruins.<br /><br />I've always been interested in the ways games can tell stories, too, even back on the old Genesis days. It was the FF series that really got me thinking about how good games can be as a storytelling medium, especially VI, VII, X, and Tactics. It's always been my dream to do story planning for a game, though I wouldn't know how to get started and it's getting a little late for me to be able to do anything with it anyway.<br /><br />On the shift to online play, I don't care much for it either. I'm not the most sociable type as it is; I mostly prefer single player games to get away from people. I'll do some things with a very, very small group of friends occasionally. I don't really have the patience for the things you mentioned or just how obnoxious a lot of the other players are.<br /><br />Anthony - Another friend of mine said the same thing about The Last of Us, which I'm hoping to get at some point. He mentioned the quality of the voice acting, too, especially how good Troy Baker was as Joel. If only my budget wasn't so tight and my gaming backlog wasn't so big...<br /><br />Anyway, sorry for the rambling here. I've thoroughly enjoyed both this and the political site, Andrew, and I've learned quite a bit from both the main blog and your Agenda 2016 book (and enjoyed Without a Hitch, too). I don't know how often I'll be commenting beyond this, but keep up the good work!<br /><br /> - DanielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-1258163266852525792013-06-21T22:48:56.171-04:002013-06-21T22:48:56.171-04:00Thanks Anthony! That is the sad result of the fil...Thanks Anthony! That is the sad result of the film. But it's hard to lose that kind of money without those kinds of results.<br /><br />I haven't played anything in the last couple years because I've been too busy, but what I've seen absolutely blows away most of what you see on film these days. A lot of these companies have really done an amazing job mixing game play with film quality story-telling.<br /><br />As an aside, the one thing I don't care for is the shift to online play. I've found that to be too difficult, especially when the game plays in real time. It's annoying to wake up and discover that you got attacked at night.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-64402714351509115652013-06-21T22:41:11.029-04:002013-06-21T22:41:11.029-04:00Great review. As a huge gamer who was a big fan o...Great review. As a huge gamer who was a big fan of Square I think the saddest thing about this film is that it wrecked Square's finances and that it played a large roe in Sakaguchi's (the father of the games and the movie) departure from the company.<br /><br />I agree storytelling in games is very advanced (just finished The Last of Us, a great horror game whose plot and acting shames 95 percent of movies).Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124128949343301445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-23392227214238201382013-06-21T18:50:48.560-04:002013-06-21T18:50:48.560-04:00Rustbelt, Kingdom Hearts is a great game -- so wel...Rustbelt, Kingdom Hearts is a great game -- so well done on so many levels.<br /><br />I think it's amazing how sophisticated the stories inside games are becoming, with the mix of in-game films, action scenes and character twists and turns.<br /><br />I just wanted the review, very nicely done! I agree 100%. He really puts his fingers on just how much nonsense there is in the plot.<br />AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-81792395416253270212013-06-21T17:42:29.217-04:002013-06-21T17:42:29.217-04:00Typo...
that was supposed to say, "...I coul...Typo...<br /><br />that was supposed to say, "...I could care less about the standard..."<br /><br />-RustbeltAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com