tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post6233508399371096674..comments2024-03-05T21:05:36.848-05:00Comments on CommentaramaFilms: Ain't Got No ArticleAndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger73125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-72281210889122046082013-11-04T21:19:41.235-05:002013-11-04T21:19:41.235-05:00"Ender's Game" is probably as good a..."Ender's Game" is probably as good a two hour version as anyone can make. Unfortunately , it would be better served by a mini series. Maybe something like HBO's "Game of Thrones" format. shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-27389625941614115012013-11-04T09:04:14.558-05:002013-11-04T09:04:14.558-05:00Rustbelt - The point of the multiple sorties would...Rustbelt - The point of the multiple sorties would be to blast operatives back at the same time landing in separate dates. All of them working independently in separate periods of time and only focused on preventing just the one event. They have plenty of time to do this because they have a time machine - otherwise, John Conner would have disappeared the moment the T800 went into the past. Several methods might be applied, including removal of parentage of Skynet developers. In fact, I thought the primary weakness in T1 was that Kyle Reese was sent back to do battle with the Terminator and not to an earlier period where he might have prevented the development of Skynet - through assasinations, if nothing else. But if we do that, we don't get the story we want.<br /><br />For any of this to work, time has to be monodirectional and subject to change the moment it is polluted by a loop. In other words, of course you can kill your grandfather and still exist because the continuum remains intact after the loop back, just directed onto another path.<br /><br />Of course, for a TV series, this means that all the sorties (except, perhaps, the last one) will have to fail by some natural means. This method can be used to suggest to the viewer that time is inviolate and can't be changed, or you can hold to the concept that events are preordained or the timeline self-corrects in some fashion. <br /><br />This last concept was used very effectively, I think in the 2002 version of The Time Machine, where Guy Pierce's character is completely incapable of saving the love of his life - she keeps dying by a new method - and realizes that time is inviolable. This is well done and highlights, I think, the key requirement in time travel fiction - the author has to decide what the rules of temporal physics shall be and rigorously stick to them.<br /><br />Lots of potential drama in my idea, but few shiny machines, so I suppose we judge it Classic Fail.<br />KRSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-16539692300686203652013-11-03T16:17:44.540-05:002013-11-03T16:17:44.540-05:00Scott,
The movie Ender's Game felt rather ste...Scott,<br /><br />The movie <i>Ender's Game</i> felt rather sterile and lifeless at times.Kithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01453591141757808708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-60247241063700168122013-11-03T15:38:19.622-05:002013-11-03T15:38:19.622-05:00My friend saw Ender's Game with his son - it w...My friend saw <i>Ender's Game</i> with his son - it was exactly what he expected, which wasn't a good thing. His opinion was that they drained much of the life out of it and while they didn't show certain things from the novel, they treated the characters as if those things had still happened in the movie (or words to that effect).<br /><br />Haven't seen <i>Gravity</i> yet.<br /><br />I did, however, Redbox <i>Now You See Me</i>. It was entertaining and my on-screen alter ego (Jesse Eisenberg) was good, along with everyone else. But I found many of the events completely implausible and I have a problem with movies about magic acts where they're obviously using CGI to create said acts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-89638523496224911222013-11-03T14:01:00.624-05:002013-11-03T14:01:00.624-05:00Saw Ender's Game last night. It was ok. Not gr...Saw <i>Ender's Game</i> last night. It was ok. Not great but not terrible.<br /><br />If you want to support OSC then watch it. Otherwise, I'm not sure.<br />Now, if you want a <b>great</b> movie then check out <i>Gravity</i> in 3D. Amazing movie.Kithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01453591141757808708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-50338821419569750282013-11-03T12:39:29.644-05:002013-11-03T12:39:29.644-05:00Dave, Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Talk abou...Dave, Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Talk about nonessential personnel.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-85768168986587366972013-11-03T12:39:02.334-05:002013-11-03T12:39:02.334-05:00Rustbelt, It is entirely possible that since he fa...Rustbelt, It is entirely possible that since he failed the timeline didn't change and they would know the timeline didn't change.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-19103600335757000632013-11-03T12:23:47.374-05:002013-11-03T12:23:47.374-05:00Who knew that CIA operatives had enough time to do...Who knew that CIA operatives had enough time to do movie websites?Dave Olsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-85261468559781795172013-11-03T12:14:26.277-05:002013-11-03T12:14:26.277-05:00Floyd, Yep. Sadly, the day job got me. I've ...Floyd, Yep. Sadly, the day job got me. I've been busy redrafting an emergency government contract for the past few days. Things will return to normal soon though. :)AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-45446495851808090302013-11-03T09:23:23.029-05:002013-11-03T09:23:23.029-05:00taking Halloween weekend off? :-)taking Halloween weekend off? :-)Floyd R. Turbohttp://www.threedonia.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-4483325087532972022013-11-03T09:20:48.647-05:002013-11-03T09:20:48.647-05:00YES!<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M" rel="nofollow">YES!</a>Kithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01453591141757808708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-80091359493829276932013-11-03T00:16:49.289-04:002013-11-03T00:16:49.289-04:00Now, that doesn't mean retcons can't be do...Now, that doesn't mean retcons can't be done well. One of the best sequel series of all time, 'Frasier,' did a good job of clearing things up. <br /><br />On 'Cheers,' Frasier told Sam that he was an only child and that his father had passed away. (Frasier's mother actually appeared once on the show.) On 'Frasier,' Sam shows up in the second season and meets Frasier's dad, Martin. When Sam asks the obvious question, much to Martin's shock, ("You told him I was dead?!") Frasier says the two weren't getting along at the time (well established in the 'Frasier' series) and he didn't want to acknowledge him. He also admits to lying about Martin's job as a cop. ("You told him I was a researcher?" "You dead to him, It didn't matter.") <br />Of course, he also admits that animosity between him and Niles led him to not acknowledge his brother. ("At least you were dead to him! As far as he was concerned, I never existed!") Okay, that line isn't in the episode, though I though it was for a while until I re-watched the show. Would've been good, though, don't you think?<br /><br />So, you see, retcons can be handled well if carefully thought out. 'Frasier' was; T2 wasn't.Rustbelthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12190297078043033514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-120514278771010102013-11-03T00:09:42.799-04:002013-11-03T00:09:42.799-04:00KRS, sorry I'm late with a response.
Honestl...KRS, sorry I'm late with a response. <br /><br />Honestly, I don't know how the whole "sortie thing" would work out. Personally, I think the whole situation of 2029 would've changed instantly when the T-800 went back in time. I'm not sure the resistance would've had a chance to send Reese back. He probably would've had to follow the T-800 by milliseconds. As for extra sorties...first, how would they know if they're needed? And second, every time travel would potentially change the present (as in 2029). Those people would have no knowledge of what happened if the timeline is altered and no reason to see their deeds as contingency plans- if they get that far and the future is anything like the future that never happened. (Whew!) As Andrew mentioned, this is one of the great problems with time travel stories. Events are changed and the future/present is altered. The situation in 2029 would be different and only the time travelers would notice the changes. Given that, I don't see the TV series as viable. (I've only seen it as an excuse to show hot chicks as lethal robots- always guaranteed to get sex-starved nerds to watch TV.)<br /><br />And I agree with GypsyTyger. T1 DID make it sound like the T-800 was a last-second Hail Mary pass from the half field. If what Reese says is true, Skynet wouldn't have had a chance to send the T-1000 back.<br /><br />And Dave, with all due respect, I must side with Mr. Plinkett. With the cost of tickets these days, people shouldn't have to rely on another medium to fix plot holes. And given my explanation from above, I still don't see how it makes sense. To me, it's all just a bad retcon in attempt to get around the self-contained mythology GypsyTyger described. <br /><br />(continued...)Rustbelthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12190297078043033514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-23529744543561263512013-11-02T15:56:10.607-04:002013-11-02T15:56:10.607-04:00PikeBishop, I see your point and I agree that it&#...PikeBishop, I see your point and I agree that it's not a scene I like. But like I said, if I took any of this seriously, I would honestly be offended at almost everything in each of the films. They are top to bottom pretty sick.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-76753171818938609192013-11-02T15:53:39.145-04:002013-11-02T15:53:39.145-04:00Maybe if they were just stealing and verbally taun...Maybe if they were just stealing and verbally taunting the owner, but whacking his knees with bats. Sorry, there's that line for me.PikeBishophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05761380937971970762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-11769200423857317912013-11-02T15:52:38.412-04:002013-11-02T15:52:38.412-04:00Andrew, I am no shrinking violet when it comes to ...Andrew, I am no shrinking violet when it comes to violence, but that just went so far over the line for me. I guess it passed some invisible acceptance barrier. I cringe just thinking about it.PikeBishophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05761380937971970762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-83707327964387080502013-11-02T15:50:11.163-04:002013-11-02T15:50:11.163-04:00PikeBishop, Each of the Robocop movies is all arou...PikeBishop, Each of the Robocop movies is all around beyond extreme and passes into the ridiculous. If I took any of it seriously, I would probably be offended by all of it.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-23200355221829239992013-11-02T15:49:04.754-04:002013-11-02T15:49:04.754-04:00It does, doesn't it? I love that review!It does, doesn't it? I love that review!AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-32866232494824237792013-11-02T15:48:45.101-04:002013-11-02T15:48:45.101-04:00Technically speaking, tryanmax, he drives a 6000 S...Technically speaking, tryanmax, he drives a 6000 SUX... not a Taurus. ;-)<br /><br />I can see why it would creep you out. There is a creepy vibe to the whole thing.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-49640700781982075472013-11-02T15:48:09.283-04:002013-11-02T15:48:09.283-04:00LOL! I think "Pinko STTNG Picardites" ne...LOL! I think "Pinko STTNG Picardites" needs to be entered into the Commentaramanary. tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-24023774604015841322013-11-02T15:44:37.645-04:002013-11-02T15:44:37.645-04:00Scott, Many would be wrong. ;-P Just kidding. I ...Scott, Many would be wrong. ;-P Just kidding. I get why they are in there, they just feel misplaced to me, especially given the whole tongue in cheek world that Verhoben has created it feels like it belongs in another film.<br /><br /><br />BTW, check out the new review someone left of the Trek book. It's pretty funny. He clearly is not a TNG fan! <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Politics-Star-Trek-ebook/dp/B009VNG4BG/ref=la_B00CY2XB8U_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1383421196&sr=1-2" rel="nofollow">LINK</a>AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-9351566392331145662013-11-02T15:44:26.118-04:002013-11-02T15:44:26.118-04:00Also: He drives a Ford Taurus = FAIL! Also: He drives a Ford Taurus = FAIL! tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-91829911959293983742013-11-02T15:44:01.787-04:002013-11-02T15:44:01.787-04:00Okay, I held back as long as I could: I don't ...Okay, I held back as long as I could: I don't like any of the <i>Robocop</i> movies because they creep me out. I don't know what it is exactly. I'm fine with pretty much every other cyborg movie or character, but Robocop gives me the willies. tryanmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881154741574720094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-71163449388722937792013-11-02T15:43:59.762-04:002013-11-02T15:43:59.762-04:00I have not watched Robocop II for years, and only ...I have not watched Robocop II for years, and only watched it once. There was a scene in there that was one of the most disturbing and unsettling scenes I have ever had the displeasure of watching.<br /><br />I can't stand the scene where an adult has his Little League team robbing a stereo store and little boys and girls are looting, stealing and actually viciously beating the owner with baseball bats! Baseball bats! That scene just makes me despise this movie.<br /><br />Never watched it again.PikeBishophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05761380937971970762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-39758083369027782732013-11-02T15:43:58.908-04:002013-11-02T15:43:58.908-04:00Rob -
I recently watched again 2010 (and I'v...Rob - <br /><br />I recently watched again <i>2010</i> (and I've bugged Andrew to review it, too!)... and it's just too different in tone and execution for me to compare it to <i>2001</i>. Some folks above had trouble comparing the <i>Gremlins</i> movies... well, I can't compare these two.<br /><br />I'm not gonna say one is filet mignon while the other is a hamburger - that would be elitist, but they're just too different. It might be better to compare <i>2010</i> to movies made around the same time.<br /><br />And if/when they make <i>2061</i> into a movie, it will no doubt be totally different as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com