tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post3087834967595794696..comments2024-03-05T21:05:36.848-05:00Comments on CommentaramaFilms: Guest Review: Mission to Mars (2000) vs. Red Planet (2000)AndrewPricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-69005251000626363102017-10-30T08:43:37.951-04:002017-10-30T08:43:37.951-04:00Mission to Mars, fantastic movie with spectacular ...Mission to Mars, fantastic movie with spectacular scene astronauts in Mars orbit searching an orbital ship for go inside.tonyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08253501266473243514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-3439456079747019662013-01-29T23:05:32.915-05:002013-01-29T23:05:32.915-05:00msousa -
Glad to be of service, though I guess w...msousa - <br /><br />Glad to be of service, though I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.<br /><br />I'll give this film credit for having Big Ideas (even if they're cliched) and a sense of discovery but I think it's all a little perfunctory. For a mission to Mars, there doesn't seem to be much fanfare.<br /><br />Cheadle was good but his dialogue at the beginning is just cringe-inducing. And I think Robbins overacts.<br /><br />This film set its sights high and missed whereas <i>Red Planet</i> set its sights lower and passed. At the end of the day, which is the better scenario? :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-23265886057477722352013-01-10T04:06:32.823-05:002013-01-10T04:06:32.823-05:00I don't understand all the hate this movie is ...I don't understand all the hate this movie is getting. I thought Don Cheadle was great, and I thought Tim Robbins was also great. His death scene really stayed with me for years. <br /><br />I've heard alot of chatter about how it ripped alot of movies, and there are so many cliches, but seriously the cliches are way worse in red planet. Also, all the proposed Mars movie ideas I've read on the comments section are full of way more cliched ideas. A landing failure? Give me a break. How do you have the stones to suggest that, while simultaneously dissing Mission.<br /><br />I understand it's not for everyone, but I found it was able to capture a sense of wonder that many science fiction films lack as of late.<br /><br />I guess I'm just disappointed, maybe I saw something else in the film that most haven't. Or maybe I'm being selectively blind.<br /><br />In my opinion preferring Red Planet over Mission, is like preferring The Illusionist over The Prestige.<br /><br />Thanks for writing the article though, it's one of the better bad reviews for this film I've read. Most are generic, and don't give it justice.<br /><br />msousahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00195646610117464976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-36246666545072289362012-09-13T20:57:15.461-04:002012-09-13T20:57:15.461-04:00obiwan, I'm instinctively not a joiner. I'...obiwan, I'm instinctively not a joiner. I'm know it helps for networking, but it's just not me.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-82625240455695219182012-09-13T20:55:14.671-04:002012-09-13T20:55:14.671-04:00obwiwan, I love the longer version of Dune (not th...obwiwan, I love the longer version of <i>Dune</i> (not the miniseries, but the film). And the longer version is much better than the shorter version, even though they gave it an "Alan Smithee."<br /><br />BUT...<br /><br />It's an acquired taste. Most people hate it. And I think you probably need to be somewhat familiar with the book for it to work for you.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-34716112952833284512012-09-13T20:53:19.233-04:002012-09-13T20:53:19.233-04:00Shawn, LOL! Nice reference! :) I wanted to like ...Shawn, LOL! Nice reference! :) I wanted to like <i>Ghosts of Mars</i> sooooo much, and just couldn't.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-91810860057183545602012-09-13T16:07:28.367-04:002012-09-13T16:07:28.367-04:00Andrew, I recall being part of a several groups du...Andrew, I recall being part of a several groups during my time as an undergraduate. I will admit, there were more, but these were the four biggest ones: Intramural Volleyball, the University's Environmental Club, and the programmer's group (Two of them: Java and C++) Anyways, the reason I bring up the four as the biggest, was because from these four that I really got the hang of skills and social connections that carried on afterwards.<br /><br />T-Rav, your scouting stories are pretty funny. I was a lapsed scout, I messed around and enjoyed all the camping trips, but slacked off on actually making Eagle till high school graduation and the deadline were coming around the corner, then I finally made the small effort to finish it. Yeah, those were the days, and yes, I saw some crazy scoutmasters that most liberals would sue if they found out their kid had such people as a leader.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-83223340082506155322012-09-13T15:58:13.791-04:002012-09-13T15:58:13.791-04:00I recently decided to read Out of the Silent Plane...I recently decided to read Out of the Silent Planet, to which I realized, "Wow! C.S. Lewis actually wrote sci-fi books about space travel and colonization!<br /><br />Other than that, my girlfriend was considering that we see the unedited four-hour extended edition of Dune, by Frank Herbert. Any reviews on that? Does anyone think it's worth it to see the version not cut to about 1 hour and 45 minutes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-36325806719093974642012-09-13T00:59:48.498-04:002012-09-13T00:59:48.498-04:00A train movie and a mars movie? Carpenter already ...A train movie and a mars movie? Carpenter already did it with <i>Ghosts of Mars</i>. It wasn't very good.shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-62361794233739694032012-09-12T22:26:01.321-04:002012-09-12T22:26:01.321-04:00Hey now, camping is fun, and I don't care what...Hey now, camping is fun, and I don't care what anyone says. I haven't gotten to do any in a long time, though. I kinda miss it.T-Ravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218035729479354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-65790126375349173242012-09-12T21:36:36.537-04:002012-09-12T21:36:36.537-04:00True, but Jaws is an elegantly written film with a...True, but <i>Jaws</i> is an elegantly written film with a strong story. Neither of these films can say that. Indeed, there were too many characters, too many subplots, too many attempts to latch onto anything to make the story interesting. And because of that, the AMEE subplot comes through as the strongest because it's the most consistent, it runs the longest, it provides the most action and drama, and it's the most visually compelling.<br />AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-87125154516289818192012-09-12T21:32:35.637-04:002012-09-12T21:32:35.637-04:00The funny thing is, I would talk to my friend abou...The funny thing is, I would talk to my friend about this movie and I'd tell him the same thing about AMEE that I mentioned above, and my friend would just say, "Watch the movie, then judge!"<br /><br />But it worked. It's a bit predictable but in this film, with the downer vibe they were going for (intentionally or not), it seemed to fit in.<br /><br />On the other hand, it's like doing <i>Jaws</i> with, not just a shark, but an oil spill going on as well. And what's a big reason we admire <i>Jaws</i>? Narrative efficiency.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-3780821180233825312012-09-12T21:24:14.831-04:002012-09-12T21:24:14.831-04:00Scott, That's a tall order to get our house in...Scott, That's a tall order to get our house in order. How about we just build a new one?<br /><br />As for the two films, I go with <i>Red Planet</i> as well by a hair, and what I liked best was Tom Sizemore and AMEE (though you correctly note that was just a gimmick).AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-55533749104713593302012-09-12T20:54:05.694-04:002012-09-12T20:54:05.694-04:00LL -
At the end of the day, I prefer neither of ...LL - <br /><br />At the end of the day, I prefer neither of them but <i>Red Planet</i> satisfies slightly more simply by virtue of how badly they screwed up the other one!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-29231668982544123182012-09-12T20:53:23.407-04:002012-09-12T20:53:23.407-04:00Andrew -
You guys get your own house in order be...Andrew - <br /><br />You guys get your own house in order before you start inviting guests! :-)<br /><br />(Seriously, when you wrote that Obama is not a Socialist, my first thought was, "Now all you need to do is go to every other conservative website and say the same thing. See ya next year!") Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-51360234156024638142012-09-12T20:47:54.863-04:002012-09-12T20:47:54.863-04:00Of the two, I preferred Red Planet. Neither one bl...Of the two, I preferred Red Planet. Neither one blew my hair back, but of the two, definitely Red Planet.LLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05538854359365988863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-81897359209942749102012-09-12T20:10:13.098-04:002012-09-12T20:10:13.098-04:00Scott, I just have this vision of you climbing int...Scott, I just have this vision of you climbing into the back of a VW Minibus because some creepy guy with a tick pulls up and offers to take you camping! ;)<br /><br />That's a great line by Groucho. I think you're just an independent because my brainwashing hasn't kicked in yet! :)AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-7703543520528762852012-09-12T19:57:30.024-04:002012-09-12T19:57:30.024-04:00Whenever anyone asks me why I'm an Independent...Whenever anyone asks me why I'm an Independent voter, I give them the old Groucho Marx line: "I'd never belong to a club that would have me as a member!"<br /><br />Serial killer bait? Not at all. :-) I've never been on any kind of trip like that but that's what I get for having friends who are more broke than I am.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-1222635732020711952012-09-12T19:52:17.594-04:002012-09-12T19:52:17.594-04:00Scott, "I'd jump at the chance"... s...Scott, "I'd jump at the chance"... sounds like serial killer bait! ;)<br /><br />I was forced to join various groups to pad my college application, but I did it under protest and I wasn't happy about it. I hear kids today need to join half a dozen groups. Blech.AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-42627937493160198172012-09-12T19:36:28.347-04:002012-09-12T19:36:28.347-04:00Andrew -
Considering I had to be only 7 or 8, I ...Andrew - <br /><br />Considering I had to be only 7 or 8, I obviously didn't have much say in the matter!<br /><br />I'm all for camping, though I've never really gone on a traditional camping trip. I'd jump at the chance if invited but I'm not rushing to go myself.<br /><br />And yeah, I was never a joiner either. I was in my high school's marketing club (DECA chapter) because I just happened to be placed in marketing class (if you were in the class, you were in the chapter). I made the most of it and actually enjoyed it quite a bit - the only trophy I have to my name is for a senior class project on the merits of - wait for it - the free enterprise system.<br /><br />In middle school, I joined yearbook club but the teacher was a bit of a flake and she hired an outside helper to do all the typing - I wanted to do the typing! She literally gave everyone except me and some girl specific tasks and she told us, "I'll send for you guys if I need you."<br /><br />I never saw this teacher again. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-74693417995397319732012-09-12T19:29:21.352-04:002012-09-12T19:29:21.352-04:00Scott, I was never a scout. I'm not a "j...Scott, I was never a scout. I'm not a "joiner" so I don't join organizations. I'm not a fan of camping either. I don't see the point. Mankind took millions of years to develop beds, why do I want to sleep on the ground... even on Mars?AndrewPricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312364467936820986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-51689100037541506112012-09-12T19:27:46.415-04:002012-09-12T19:27:46.415-04:00Doc -
Thanks! Like I mentioned above, I only saw...Doc - <br /><br />Thanks! Like I mentioned above, I only saw <i>Red Planet</i> for the first time last week and <i>Mission to Mars</i> just happened to come on TV this weekend. I guess both are entertaining enough to keep on in the background but <i>Mission</i> in particular is a disappointment considering the talent involved, and I think De Palma might've been out of his element. I can't blame a guy for trying something new but the script needed a lot more work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-67020205758145784462012-09-12T19:25:55.146-04:002012-09-12T19:25:55.146-04:00Andrew (and T-Rav)
My brother was a scout for a l...Andrew (and T-Rav)<br /><br />My brother was a scout for a little while but when we were younger, he and I were Tiger Cubs. I don't even remember how we got involved with it or how long it lasted (it wasn't long)... all I remember is an organized camping trip with dad. It was an actual campsite and the tents were already made so we didn't have to do much from scratch! There's a home movie of us on the trip and some photos... other than that, I have no recollection.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-17249497687157826652012-09-12T19:23:09.567-04:002012-09-12T19:23:09.567-04:00T-Rav -
Thanks. Believe it or not, I noticed the...T-Rav - <br /><br />Thanks. Believe it or not, I noticed the same thing back when I saw this film in the theater. I was still in high school at the time. If I recall, they don't even go through a tunnel or airlock - they literally open a thin flap, and the oxygen's just fine.<br /><br />I think if it pulled you right out of the movie, then it's not nitpicky. Nitpicky would be something that isn't obvious - something you'd notice after multiple viewings (IMHO).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7059293386881623259.post-41824256914551821612012-09-12T17:45:23.886-04:002012-09-12T17:45:23.886-04:00Scott, Excellent article. I saw both years ago an...Scott, Excellent article. I saw both years ago and have occasionally seen them on television since and I always hope for more than they give. For all the talent involved, they should have been more interesting.Doc Whoahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16283308866886912377noreply@blogger.com